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Sometimes is a lot different from having it be part of your entire act, and having it clearly be to appeal to a more accessible/bigger group of people. If they pushed through their actual accents, since they're actually well-off and from rather posh areas, they'd risk a smaller following, so they hide the fact that they've got posh accents behind a working class accent.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacknife737
I've watched countless Lily Allen interviews and I've never heard a difference between her speaking voice and her singing voice, maybe it is because I'm not from England? I could care less if they're "putting on an act". She seems like a pretty funny lady and I'd pay to just give her a high five because I could say I've done it. "It's not Fair" is probably one of my more preferred songs on the album. Granted they're all good. Forgot this lady as well. In my top ten for songs of 2013 at the moment. It came out here in 2013 what do youu want from me!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMJkddvJ4L4
No worries if other people like her despite it... I'm just explaining why I hate it.
Both of them sing with a Mockney accent, "an affectation sometimes adopted for aesthetic or theatric purposes, other times just to sound “cool”, generate street credibility or give the false impression that the speaker rose from humble beginnings and became prominent through some innate talent rather than the education, contacts and other advantages a privileged background tends to bring."
"Kate Nash is the best example of a person who decided to adopt Cockney in order to start her music career and gain fans. She was born in 1987 in a middle-class family in London. Her father is English and her mother Irish. She studied at the BRIT School for Performing Arts and Technology in South London, where she was taught the RP pronunciation. However, living in London all her life made her familiar with the Cockney accent and, finally (when starting her career), she adopted it. She did it, because she saw the great success of Lily Allen, a 2-year older singer from London, who also adopted Cockney. Unfortunately, except for the fact that Nash tries to speak Cockney all the time, it is not the same accent that we can hear in London. To be precise, she uses a mixture of RP, Estuary English and Cockney. What is more, many people claim she still sounds too “posh” and that her struggle to adopt the proper Cockney failed. All these make her Mockney a very interesting accent to investigate."
Heh, funny that I like Kate more, considering she actually directly took the idea from Lily. Lame.
I think there's a reason that most of their fans are not British. I've actually read that Kate and Lily are two of the most hated pop musicians in the UK, according to British music fans - and it's because of the Mockney.
Just re-read this. What shock value are you speaking of?Quote:
Originally Posted by Llamas
Lily got big on most of her lyrics being surprisingly vulgar and sexual for a soft-spoken girl. Nearly everybody who's asked me if I've heard of Lily Allen has talked about Not Fair and Fuck You and how hilariously vulgar they are - if a man sang those lyrics, nobody would care.Quote:
Originally Posted by Retard
Lily singing Fuck you is seriously the most vulgar part of the song. Unless they were offended by her saying fuck you to people who don't like gay people I don't see what the problem with that song. Oh well no biggie, people like what they like, I'm afraid I'm coming off as defensive and that's not my intention. I don't know if this is that "pop" anymore but watever I fucking love this shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CajPifzYyRs
Vulgar and offensive are very different things :P I didn't say she's popular because she's offensive... yes, a soft-spoken woman singing "fuck you" over and over throughout the chorus of a song has shock value. I can't think of one other soft-spoken female pop singer with a song that has the word "fuck" like 20-some times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Retard
I can't think of any soft spoken female pop singers haha.
Pink, definitely Pink. I actually like Pink.
Lily Allen, I went to see a concert a few years ago, invited by the Joker... well... he lost the right to ever choose a concert that day.
Always liked Pink. Gaga was awesome but very briefly. Really appreciated Sheryl Crow back in the day. My favourite ever was Cerys from Catatonia though, somehow her voice was pure sex for me in a really weird way.
I enjoy what I've heard of Lilly Allen. It also doesn't hurt that her brother plays Theon in Game of Thrones and her song "Alfie" is about him. I was not aware that her accent was fake. Fake accents, mockney and such, used to fill me with barely contained rage though I struggle now to remember quite why. I was particularly upset with Blur's Damon Albarn for some reason. Now I see it as merely an artistic choice and it doesn't bother me in the slightest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsSl7cKQuKk
I don't care if this isn't current. It's just awesome.