I, too, am a huge fan of breasts. But crappy cleavage in a cheap costume serves zero purpose to me :P
Originally Posted by nieh
Halloween is starting to become a thing here (in addition to Carnival, which is much bigger and more fun here), and I've just seen some incredible costumes - crappy costumes like "slutty cat" and the like are kinda rare. I got pulled over last Carnival by a guy dressed as one of these speed radar machines on the sides of the highways here. Looked just like one of the machines, but walking toward me - and then plopped down right in front me, the "screen" was an opening to his face, and he called his friend over who was simply dressed as a cop, and they gave me a ticket for speeding :P That same night, I saw a group of five people wearing amazing homemade Power Rangers costumes... and a guy dressed as the "fuck yeah" meme guy. I guess that's the entire point to me - coming up with creative costumes that people will enjoy and talk about. Otherwise, I also see no point.
Originally Posted by Paint_It_Black
Nah, I fully agree - just a nurse is as boring as a sexy nurse. But you could do a lot with a nurse costume and make it a lot of fun. Not much you can do with a "slutty nurse" costume.
But, surely then you'd just look like a nurse. I admit I don't intuitively "get" Halloween but I'm pretty sure it's not simply "dress up as a random profession" day. You could just be a nurse, but what would be the point of that? Though you could make an awesome/terrifying nurse costume, I suppose. Like something from Silent Hill.
Right. Again, they're not prevalent here, but every Halloween party I've been to in the US was full of them, and my Facebook page will have plenty of them in a few weeks... along with plenty of people complaining about their lack of options at the store.
So you aren't bothered by sexy costumes, you just wish they weren't quite so prevalent. Fair enough.
Yeah, I understand that. Men do get objectified, but not nearly as often (someone said earlier that a man can become famous without being attractive, but women still struggle in that regard - very true), and without the same undertones. Men can be sexualized and objectified and not be afraid of being raped. Yes, men do get raped, but they're generally a lot more able to defend themselves, and it's simply much less common. Plus, generally speaking, men aren't pressured by society so much to believe that being physically attractive to attract the right mate is the most important thing in life. Now, men are certainly pressured to be financially successful to attract the right physically attractive mate, which is a negative thing for men, but they are free from the physically attractive part.
Branching off a little here, I think men often have trouble understanding what being objectified and sexualized feels like for a woman because, honestly, I would love to be objectified and sexualized and so would every guy I know. And it does happen, certainly. But when men are objectified nobody seems to think it's bad. There's a sense that it's creepy when men do it but it's just playful when women do it. And again, in my experience, most men like being objectified. So although I put a great deal of effort into forming "correct" opinions I struggle with the issue of objectifying women. I get that it possibly contributes to gender inequality, possibly in very serious ways, but I also personally love objectifying and sexualizing everybody and to me it doesn't feel creepy when I do it and everybody should feel free to do the same to me.
It'd be ideal of people could be sexualized and objectified without all the negativity; there's nothing inherently wrong with it, as I said I don't mind sexy costumes if someone so chooses to wear them, but there are various ideas on how to get rid of the negative undertones, and I think a place to start would be women not just accepting whatever's offered in the stores for costumes.
You are right about penis size, but that pressure actually seems to come from men, not from women. I've never met a woman who viewed a man more negatively, or turned him away because of penis size. In fact, women I know don't even talk about that, but rather how good the sex is, which doesn't really have much to do with size. Men seem to be the ones who are concerned with how their penis size compares with others', and thus it is not coming from one group (women) doing it to the other (men).
Originally Posted by T-6005
Ah, there it is.
It's a strange transition, but it's not uncommon for people to automatically assume that as long as you're rich, or succcessful, or famous, that your looks fade in importance. These are quite often seen as even more important than conforming to the body image ideal, and unfortunately women don't even seem to have that same minimal flexibility yet. Not that it's a good thing either, but to not even have that?
....what on earth is that? Do I even want to know?
Originally Posted by calichix
Wow, that's really sad. :-/
I just read a very sad article about male objectification and poor old d'angelo being treated like a piece of meat after "untitled". the song that launched a thousand pregnancies with its buttery smooth neo soul and all d'angelo gets is "take it offff!!"