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    I attend a, what you could call, very socially active university. My friend and I were discussing the other day that this environment probably made us much more bitter towards any form of activism than we should be. (It's not my fault, it's my crazy school!)

    And regardless of whether some forms are useful or necessary, I think the photos I have here are good evidence of the kind of activism I strongly disapprove of.

    So, at our school, there is a tradition where students go out and paint a cannon in the centre of campus in the middle of the night with whatever message they want to send. There are a lot of messages for residence halls, birthdays, campus events, and yes, social activities.

    So, we decided it would be entertaining to paint a message in support of the local conservative candidate during the Canadian elections over the summer. We didn't want to make it offensive in any way and chose a simple "Demand better" slogan with the conservative C logo (which I very nicely stenciled by the way).

    Here is shown our work of art.



    And hours later, this is what became of it. Needless to say it was rather quickly painted over by the administration, which doesn't often happen.




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    Apparently they have a slight bone to pick with conservatives.
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    Apparently.

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    Heeheehee... demand beer.



    Ah, good ol' liberal activists. They're so tolerant of all cultures and peoples that they'll do all they can to shout down anyone they perceive as intolerant. It's especially annoying because, although both sides think that they're right, many times liberals just seem to think that they're more enlightened solely due to their viewpoint, and that any sort of intolerant or shrill activities done in the name of that view don't matter, because they're for a greater, more enlightened, cause.

    Perhaps it's just that I expect more out of liberals (I guess I am one) that this really gets to me. I'm in a part of the country where people have their Kerry bumper stickers torn off, though, so (duh) it goes both ways. Advertising a cause is one thing, just as long as you allow, to a certain extent, the others to voice their opinions.
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    The beer thing is the only part that I like...

    It's true that it works both ways, and I could understand some deep rooted hate of right-wingers from somebody who is surrounded by a bunch of extremists in their daily life. This is just a glimpse into why I have some bitterness towards the social activists, because I am surrounded with it constantly. Some in a good way, some in a bad way. A good example: people campaigned to get rid of styrofoam in a food-serving location and it worked. Bad examples: people vandalized a whole bunch of coke machines, spraypainted messages about coke on buildings...

    It's frustrating because they are tolerant of gays, of women, of racial minorities... but when it comes to say christians. No tolerance there. And I've never really understood that. Different cultures have different beliefs, gay people have their own way of living that some people don't agree with, but christians can't have their own point of view at all. And like, people will say they're forcing their beliefs on people, but nobody would ever complain about a rainbow sticker with an "ally" message, or a gay rally, or something like that. A religious organization on campus ran this big campaign and plastered their messages everywhere. (Not offensive at all, not god related, it was actually fairly cryptic e.g. just had the website) and people just went nuts on them.

    And saying this, I am not religious, I think gay people can do whatever they please, and I don't support conservatives who are social extremists either. It's just very hypocritical to preach tolerance and not be tolerant yourself. Of everybody. Even the straight wealthy white male.

    Mota, I like the comment about the enlightenment... I think that's a good way of putting it.

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    The thing is, (and I don't approve of bashing of religion, and in this case, Christianity because it seems like just like a mild form of rebelling for the sake of rebelling) but you could argue for example, that they are intolerant towards the forms and shapes of the oppressors. Women and gays aren't and won't be oppressors, however Christians, especially in North America, even in some parts today exert forms of oppression and forcing their beliefs on others. I however, think this would be rather hard to find an example of in Canada.
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    I agree with that, and I don't support Christians (or any religion) that are truly oppressing with their beliefs (although they should still be allowed to express what they believe without people overreacting).

    Actually, you could argue that women and gays CAN be oppressors, come to think of it. It really depends on what we mean by oppressing... if you take it to be putting your rights above somebody else's... or putting down somebody else in supporting your beliefs... I suppose that could be oppression... but there are so many degrees so it's difficult to judge.

    I guess the idea is to have a fairness for everybody when it comes to the definition of it. I guess I think that if people's expression of beliefs remains positive, it should be okay. And this would be more difficult for religions because more often their beliefs necessarily say other people are wrong (e.g gays are wrong, you're going to hell if you don't believe in god... ) but some religious people (be they "bad" religious people based on their religion's "rules") are much more tolerant. Like my parents for example. You could argue that they are bad catholics if they don't automatically hate gays, or don't worship the sabbath, or whatever else... but they are very positive and inspiring in what they believe... even though I don't agree.

    And for women (or another such group), as long as they are promoting women equality and not women superiority then it should be okay. But like I said, you could argue that sometimes they are oppressing men, depending on the issue.

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    Wah wah wah, next time don't use a symbol of mass-murder. I'm sure the people who had their house burned down last year for having a sign on their lawn of the number of dead U.S. soldiers are crying a river over your plight.
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    What the hell...?

    Well, I'm glad you think it's perfectly justified.

    Not nearly as bad as a house being burned down, so obviously it's okay.

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    I think it's funny that on their attack to your painting, they put "the poor queers" while obviously trying to criticize conservatives for being intolerant. Here, the word 'queer', while not horrible, is still somewhat derogatory...is that not the case in Canada?

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