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    Okay goddamnit, here's the deal: I just put Last Bits, 8 (the re-recording) and At The Gates on my PSP for leisure-time listening. I've been meaning to sit down and listen to these, but I never really have a chance to do so --- when I'm driving I can't really hear that well (I drive with the windows down cuz my AC is broke), so it doesn't do much good to listen to songs if I don't have a rough idea of how they go already....and when I'm at home I'm usually just playing whatever in the background while I work on stuff (or I record, which means no music playing at all). But while I'm level-grinding on boring JRPGs, or being a manic insomniac and not sleeping, I almost always have my PSP on hand for easy listening. So I AM GOING TO FUCKING LISTEN TO ALL OF THESE ALBUMS, and then I'm going to give them the fair write-up that they deserve.

    And you're gonna LIKE it, goddamnit!

    Seriously, though, it's been too long. I have good memories of level grinding on Digital Devil Saga to the Ricetigers....you have no idea how many hours of shitty, repetitive jam-metal soundtrack you have saved me in the past. Here's to many more such hours in the future! *raises mug*

    EDIT: What I mean to say is, you are one of those rare acts that has somehow managed to secure a place in the nostalgia of my burgeoning musical interest, back in the day. Congrats!

    Also I have a fun story to tell about a certain song. But that can wait.
    "I'm sorry
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    For all the places I never was
    For all the people I never stopped
    But there was nothing I could do...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Static_Martyr View Post
    Okay goddamnit, here's the deal: I just put Last Bits, 8 (the re-recording) and At The Gates on my PSP for leisure-time listening. I've been meaning to sit down and listen to these, but I never really have a chance to do so --- when I'm driving I can't really hear that well (I drive with the windows down cuz my AC is broke), so it doesn't do much good to listen to songs if I don't have a rough idea of how they go already....and when I'm at home I'm usually just playing whatever in the background while I work on stuff (or I record, which means no music playing at all). But while I'm level-grinding on boring JRPGs, or being a manic insomniac and not sleeping, I almost always have my PSP on hand for easy listening. So I AM GOING TO FUCKING LISTEN TO ALL OF THESE ALBUMS, and then I'm going to give them the fair write-up that they deserve.

    And you're gonna LIKE it, goddamnit!

    Seriously, though, it's been too long. I have good memories of level grinding on Digital Devil Saga to the Ricetigers....you have no idea how many hours of shitty, repetitive jam-metal soundtrack you have saved me in the past. Here's to many more such hours in the future! *raises mug*

    EDIT: What I mean to say is, you are one of those rare acts that has somehow managed to secure a place in the nostalgia of my burgeoning musical interest, back in the day. Congrats!

    Also I have a fun story to tell about a certain song. But that can wait.
    Haha, thanks! That is great news to hear... especially now that not much is happening in here on my part. I did keep writing songs, though. I hope I can get to record them soon... but the first "single" off the new album will hopefully be out in a few days (submitted for the mixtape).
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    Alright, I have some time to kill so here goes: I've listened through 8 (the re-recording) again, and so I'm kind of on a nostalgia kick, so let me write this down while I'm thinking about it. Also keep in mind I'm a *little* bit high right now (took mah back pain meds about an hour ago), so if it seems like I'm getting too into this (or start trailing off on tangents), that's probably why

    First and foremost, I want to say (again) that this album is, for me, strongly associated with Digital Devil Saga for PS2, because I was listening to this on my MP3 player while playing it (that game's soundtrack is alright, but it's very grating and when you play it for long periods of time it gets old really fast). As such, it feels more like a video game or movie soundtrack than just an album. So maybe that's why it's still my favorite thing you've done so far (that I've heard); it may also help that it's the only one I'm really seriously familiar with (I know a lot of other stuff, but not always by name).

    First thing's first....comparison to the original recordings: there's no doubt that the revised recordings are significantly better quality, although the revised edition seems to have quieter vocals that are sunk farther into the mix, which makes them slightly more difficult to hear, but they also fit into the mix better than the original --- the original vocals were almost *too* present. Not enough to ruin anything, but it was definitely noticeable. The revised version ultimately ends up sounding more professional. Although there is one thing I miss from the original --- the vocals were a little more timid and restrained on the original. Not better or worse, per se, but that's how I got to know this album....so I guess I'll be forever torn between the original and the remake (like I am with many of my own songs....).

    All I Can Say
    I just want to let you know off the bat, this is my favorite song off here. I dunno why, I guess it's just the most nostalgic one. It's the first RT song I ever heard. There have been two or three or times when I came *so close* to recording a cover of this song (twice now I've put out EPs with "surprise secret covers" that were originally supposed to be this but ended up being something else).

    Listening to Pop
    Listening to this again, I think I realize another reason why I like this album --- it has a lot more (comparatively) slower-paced songs. I like those because it's easier to find a bunch of slow songs that sound different than it is to find fast ones; for awhile now I've been kind of drifting in and out of my "punk" phase and into some kind of weird in-between "pop-folk-punk" state. As a result I've been listening to a lot more Weezer, Collective Soul, Green Day, Alkaline Trio, Bottle Rockets, Jimmy Buffet, etc. But I digress....I like that this song has a slower overall tempo, but still has a busy, driving drum beat --- that's what I liked about NOFX when I first got into them, was their drums were so insanely fast. My favorite thing about this song is that it captures that fast-paced intensity with the bass drum pedal, without being 22305978235 bpm. Makes you want to like, headbang and shit. Great stuff.

    No One Has Heard
    A slightly faster kind of 8-beat tempo, rapid chord changes....a little more pop-punky, this kind of drumming always reminds me of Green Day (even though the chord progression here is a lot more "punky" and kind of random). Nice and frantic. This song lead me to coin the idea of someone having a "reverse messiah complex."

    I Would
    Beginning kind of reminds me of early, early Offspring (S/T era). Kind of a Phyrgian(sp?) vibe. Lyrics and vocal cadence makes me think of a Dead Kennedys motif, maybe something like California Uber Alles? Very short, in any case. Nice use of punctuating octave riffs, also, nice little solo in the middle! I always forget that's there and am pleasantly surprised when I rediscover it.

    Confessions of the Music Industry
    Okay, when I first heard your singing, I imagined this like 9-foot tall Titanic Giant Person. So when I heard this song, and I didn't know for sure if it was serious right away, it made me laugh really hard. I mean, it's a good song, I didn't laugh cuz it was bad, but it was funny because I thought of this like HULKING dude with a little guitar singing this nice happy little song about a lady. Kind of like the Ramones singing "Loudmouth" followed by "I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend."

    Call me an ass, but I like this song even if it is sarcastic; then again, I'm the guy who covered Rick Astley, so that may or may not mean anything coming from me. Is it sarcastic? From the title I assumed it was.

    Blind
    Irrelevant but interesting: my favorite southern rock band, The Bottle Rockets of Festous, Missouri, also have a song called "Blind." It sounds nothing like this, though.

    I like dynamic songs like this one. Steady cymbals keep the rhythm so you can kind of do your little dance in your seat while you're playing or typing or whatever, but then you have those little start-and-stop fills to keep you on your guard and set you up for the "comeback head bop." Also like the weird little guitar riffs here and there, kind of dancing in and out of the chord progression. Then there's this loud-ass closing chord at the end, kind of like that guy from the food network who goes "BAM!"

    Say What You Mean
    Another dynamic song. W00t! Neat chord progression, though, I like the back-and-forth two-chord major-minor thing in the slow parts. Also like the slow-fast thing. Like with Break Down, every time the fast part winds down, I think it's the end, but then the slow part just kinda kicks in. The melody (and just the timbre of your vocals) on the slow parts makes me think of something off of Midnight Oil's Red Sails In The Sunset (Harrisburg or Jimmy Sharman's Boxers, maybe?). I dunno. Don't ask me why I draw that comparison, it's not the melody itself but rather the feel of it. I like. That's gonna bug me though, cuz I can't remember which song that reminds me of.

    Anyway, good song. Song that's basically bashing fake ass dudes can't go wrong

    Welcome (To My New Reality)
    This is my other favorite one off here, just because the intro rhythm makes me think of it as a sort of bookend to All I Can Say; reminds me of how the first and last tracks of the 1039/Smoothed-Out Slappy Hours comp use the same little riff at certain points. If you listen to the whole album in one run, this one just sounds pretty fucking heavy. It's got this stomp-along riff for the...the what, the verse-bridge-thing after the verse? And then there's this part in the middle that takes the stomp-alongness up to 11. I imagine this song being played at a protest show of some kind, in the middle of summer, on a cheapie handmade stage of some kind.

    All in all, a solid album. I don't really want to give it an x/10 rating (if I give it a 10, which I want to, it'll seem like I'm just being generous, but if I give it a 9 or 8 just so I won't look like I'm being generous, then I'll feel like I'm not being honest, but I can't give it anything less. I just really like this thing. The fact that it's home made just gives it extra novelty points and makes me like it even more. It's like a little envelope with someone's ideas from halfway across the world that I would never have heard if not for the internet. Fuck yeah internet!

    That's all for now, I'm gonna go ahead and post this because it's thundering outside and THIS IS THE THIRD GODDAMN TIME I'VE TRIED TO WRITE A REVIEW OF THIS ALBUM AND HAD IT EITHER BLOW UP OR GET ERASED/LOST. Not gonna happen this time. I've been C+Ping to notepad this whole time, just in case.
    "I'm sorry
    For all the things that I never did
    For all the places I never was
    For all the people I never stopped
    But there was nothing I could do...
    "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Static_Martyr View Post
    Alright, I have some time to kill so here goes: I've listened through 8 (the re-recording) again, and so I'm kind of on a nostalgia kick, so let me write this down while I'm thinking about it. Also keep in mind I'm a *little* bit high right now (took mah back pain meds about an hour ago), so if it seems like I'm getting too into this (or start trailing off on tangents), that's probably why

    First and foremost, I want to say (again) that this album is, for me, strongly associated with Digital Devil Saga for PS2, because I was listening to this on my MP3 player while playing it (that game's soundtrack is alright, but it's very grating and when you play it for long periods of time it gets old really fast). As such, it feels more like a video game or movie soundtrack than just an album. So maybe that's why it's still my favorite thing you've done so far (that I've heard); it may also help that it's the only one I'm really seriously familiar with (I know a lot of other stuff, but not always by name).

    First thing's first....comparison to the original recordings: there's no doubt that the revised recordings are significantly better quality, although the revised edition seems to have quieter vocals that are sunk farther into the mix, which makes them slightly more difficult to hear, but they also fit into the mix better than the original --- the original vocals were almost *too* present. Not enough to ruin anything, but it was definitely noticeable. The revised version ultimately ends up sounding more professional. Although there is one thing I miss from the original --- the vocals were a little more timid and restrained on the original. Not better or worse, per se, but that's how I got to know this album....so I guess I'll be forever torn between the original and the remake (like I am with many of my own songs....).

    All I Can Say
    I just want to let you know off the bat, this is my favorite song off here. I dunno why, I guess it's just the most nostalgic one. It's the first RT song I ever heard. There have been two or three or times when I came *so close* to recording a cover of this song (twice now I've put out EPs with "surprise secret covers" that were originally supposed to be this but ended up being something else).

    Listening to Pop
    Listening to this again, I think I realize another reason why I like this album --- it has a lot more (comparatively) slower-paced songs. I like those because it's easier to find a bunch of slow songs that sound different than it is to find fast ones; for awhile now I've been kind of drifting in and out of my "punk" phase and into some kind of weird in-between "pop-folk-punk" state. As a result I've been listening to a lot more Weezer, Collective Soul, Green Day, Alkaline Trio, Bottle Rockets, Jimmy Buffet, etc. But I digress....I like that this song has a slower overall tempo, but still has a busy, driving drum beat --- that's what I liked about NOFX when I first got into them, was their drums were so insanely fast. My favorite thing about this song is that it captures that fast-paced intensity with the bass drum pedal, without being 22305978235 bpm. Makes you want to like, headbang and shit. Great stuff.

    No One Has Heard
    A slightly faster kind of 8-beat tempo, rapid chord changes....a little more pop-punky, this kind of drumming always reminds me of Green Day (even though the chord progression here is a lot more "punky" and kind of random). Nice and frantic. This song lead me to coin the idea of someone having a "reverse messiah complex."

    I Would
    Beginning kind of reminds me of early, early Offspring (S/T era). Kind of a Phyrgian(sp?) vibe. Lyrics and vocal cadence makes me think of a Dead Kennedys motif, maybe something like California Uber Alles? Very short, in any case. Nice use of punctuating octave riffs, also, nice little solo in the middle! I always forget that's there and am pleasantly surprised when I rediscover it.

    Confessions of the Music Industry
    Okay, when I first heard your singing, I imagined this like 9-foot tall Titanic Giant Person. So when I heard this song, and I didn't know for sure if it was serious right away, it made me laugh really hard. I mean, it's a good song, I didn't laugh cuz it was bad, but it was funny because I thought of this like HULKING dude with a little guitar singing this nice happy little song about a lady. Kind of like the Ramones singing "Loudmouth" followed by "I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend."

    Call me an ass, but I like this song even if it is sarcastic; then again, I'm the guy who covered Rick Astley, so that may or may not mean anything coming from me. Is it sarcastic? From the title I assumed it was.

    Blind
    Irrelevant but interesting: my favorite southern rock band, The Bottle Rockets of Festous, Missouri, also have a song called "Blind." It sounds nothing like this, though.

    I like dynamic songs like this one. Steady cymbals keep the rhythm so you can kind of do your little dance in your seat while you're playing or typing or whatever, but then you have those little start-and-stop fills to keep you on your guard and set you up for the "comeback head bop." Also like the weird little guitar riffs here and there, kind of dancing in and out of the chord progression. Then there's this loud-ass closing chord at the end, kind of like that guy from the food network who goes "BAM!"

    Say What You Mean
    Another dynamic song. W00t! Neat chord progression, though, I like the back-and-forth two-chord major-minor thing in the slow parts. Also like the slow-fast thing. Like with Break Down, every time the fast part winds down, I think it's the end, but then the slow part just kinda kicks in. The melody (and just the timbre of your vocals) on the slow parts makes me think of something off of Midnight Oil's Red Sails In The Sunset (Harrisburg or Jimmy Sharman's Boxers, maybe?). I dunno. Don't ask me why I draw that comparison, it's not the melody itself but rather the feel of it. I like. That's gonna bug me though, cuz I can't remember which song that reminds me of.

    Anyway, good song. Song that's basically bashing fake ass dudes can't go wrong

    Welcome (To My New Reality)
    This is my other favorite one off here, just because the intro rhythm makes me think of it as a sort of bookend to All I Can Say; reminds me of how the first and last tracks of the 1039/Smoothed-Out Slappy Hours comp use the same little riff at certain points. If you listen to the whole album in one run, this one just sounds pretty fucking heavy. It's got this stomp-along riff for the...the what, the verse-bridge-thing after the verse? And then there's this part in the middle that takes the stomp-alongness up to 11. I imagine this song being played at a protest show of some kind, in the middle of summer, on a cheapie handmade stage of some kind.

    All in all, a solid album. I don't really want to give it an x/10 rating (if I give it a 10, which I want to, it'll seem like I'm just being generous, but if I give it a 9 or 8 just so I won't look like I'm being generous, then I'll feel like I'm not being honest, but I can't give it anything less. I just really like this thing. The fact that it's home made just gives it extra novelty points and makes me like it even more. It's like a little envelope with someone's ideas from halfway across the world that I would never have heard if not for the internet. Fuck yeah internet!

    That's all for now, I'm gonna go ahead and post this because it's thundering outside and THIS IS THE THIRD GODDAMN TIME I'VE TRIED TO WRITE A REVIEW OF THIS ALBUM AND HAD IT EITHER BLOW UP OR GET ERASED/LOST. Not gonna happen this time. I've been C+Ping to notepad this whole time, just in case.
    Wow, thanks for the big review! I definitely agree with you that this album is one of the slower and more diverse ones and I can see how my songwriting evolved from the more straight-up rock influenced songs to the melodic hardcore type of songs on the later albums. I didn't really like this album so much for a long time but that was for a number of reasons. I liked some of the songs (like All I Can Say or Listening To Pop) too much to leave them in the crappy quality of the original record so I recorded the reissue and I am quite happy with it. Listening To Pop definitely got a lot better with the second little solo and the vocal harmonies and Say What You Mean also seems a lot nicer to me. The rest of the songs also got a lot better sound quality-wise. It is not my favorite album, but once in a while I enjoy the diversity from the usual fast-paced punk sound.
    And yeah, Confessions is a very sarcastic song. I made very subtle background vocals before the second chorus which resolve the confusion of what I am singing about (Come to me / beautiful and shining money)
    Thanks again for the detailed feedback!
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    So after about a year of complete idleness, I could finally bring myself to work on new songs for the upcoming release (not sure whether ep or lp yet). So far, I have about 5 songs that are more or less done. A more audible update may follow on 11/08 (hardcore Rt-listeners will know what this date is about :P)
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    So as announced, here's the 5th birthday update! You can find the song "Red Lines" from our upcoming album on our myspace page. I worked on some more songs a couple of days ago, too. I don't know if I'll get the album done by Christmas, but the album is taking shape and should be out soon!

    You can find the new song here:
    http://myspace.com/ricetigers
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    Your voice reminds me slightly of Sisters of Mercy. It's as deep, as characteristic, though different, but still I need a lyrics, but that's cool. I'm just checking out your myspace, Indigence is a discover of the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red. View Post
    Your voice reminds me slightly of Sisters of Mercy. It's as deep, as characteristic, though different, but still I need a lyrics, but that's cool. I'm just checking out your myspace, Indigence is a discover of the day.
    Wow, a new listener I'm glad that you liked Indigence, that one is a rather special one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ad8 View Post
    Wow, a new listener
    Woohooo!
    I'm glad that you liked Indigence, that one is a rather special one.
    Guitar is splendidly paranoid. I also like the Night, FYWAPB, and 2 songs I recognize from mixtapes. That's for now. Your voice sounds pretty well on those.
    Techno scared my cats.

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    So after listening to some Lagwagon reissues and noticing that they had around 26 songs on most of these albums, I started feeling bad that I didn't even release an album with half as many songs. So I finished editing the songs for the next album and now there will be a new release on the 23rd of December, kind of an early christmas present
    The album will contain eleven (I know, pathetic ) songs.

    Cooler than christmas, right?!?
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