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    Quote Originally Posted by Paint_It_Black View Post
    "Oh, I see. The definition that 99.999% of the population uses should be discarded and replaced with the definition you use. Makes perfect sense.

    Or, you know, you could pick a different word. There's lots of them. Really. Pick one.

    I know what Anarchism is. And you still need to pick a new word. Deal with it."
    The problem is not the word, the problem is peoples' prejudices, misconceptions, and ignorance. The American Heritage Dictionary is pretty clear, albiet simplistic: Anarchism (ăńər-kĭźəm) - 3 definitions - The American Heritage® Dictionary

    anarchism (n.) The theory or doctrine that all forms of government are oppressive and undesirable and should be abolished.
    anarchism (n.) Active resistance and terrorism against the state, as used by some anarchists.
    anarchism (n.) Rejection of all forms of coercive control and authority:“He was inclined to anarchism; he hated system and organization and uniformity” (Bertrand Russell)

    It's also pretty clear from even some of the most basic pamphlets that Anarchists are not opposed to social structure, merely structures that are coercive and built on subjugation of individuals'. Simply put, as i said, that no power structure should ever be seen as inherently legitimate, that they should have to meet the burden of proof of they're necessity, which is usually lacking. Nothing wrong with the word, just the audience. I mean, just ask an Anarchist what they actually believe in, or read the literature, it's very accessible.


    Quote Originally Posted by Paint_It_Black View Post
    "Learn to read, faggot. I said "ghey", not "gay". And of course I wouldn't call someone a nigger. I'd just secretly think it, like you and all the other high-class homos.

    You used a modified spelling which I'm sure youy think is cute or something, but the word is the same. Of course the issue is not the word, but it's context. Second, theres' no distinction between "faggot", "nigger", "gook", "spic", etc. If you say one, you might as well be consistent. Economically speaking, I'm poor/working class, but I have more "class" than to use such language in that way.

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    "Calm down, I have gay friends. And I like Obama. We cool, dawg. We cool.
    No, we're not, "dawg."

    Quote Originally Posted by Paint_It_Black View Post
    "Yeah, just like there's more than one interpretation of the word "gay". Funny how you seem willing to go with the contemporary and popular definition of that one.
    Well, theres' really only two that are applicable, either "gay" as in happy and lighthearted, or "gay" as a negative, which is offensive and tacky. It's like telling someone not to be such a "heeb" or a "kike", or "niggardly.' These words are not inherently bad, but the context makes them bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paint_It_Black View Post
    "I know what Anarchism is.
    Clearly, you don't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paint_It_Black View Post
    "A burden that you willfully impose upon yourself and then cry about. My gay friends said to tell you that's pretty gay.
    Anybody should have be prepared to defend they're positions, peticularly if they're going so radically against the status quo. If you want to go against the status quo you obligate yourself to be able to make a case for it. I'll generally accept that, the bigger problem is idiots calling themselves Anarchists who have no idea what they're talking about, I won't name names, and people like yourself who aren't interested in confronting the ideas just brushing it off and spreading bogus misconceptions.

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    ^ Well, if you "admit that's the biggest problem" then why not, for the good of your 'cause' change the name of what you call yourself. Nothing would change but the name. Pick your battles.

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    Well, if NGNM85 is any indication they should just start calling themselves fish. It's been a long time since I've seen bait be devoured so completely. I don't think he missed a single tasty bite.
    Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves.” – Bill Hicks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paint_It_Black View Post
    Well, if NGNM85 is any indication they should just start calling themselves fish.
    Excuse me, I think you mean sea kittens.
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    hehe so please read the "to ANARCHISM FROM ANARCHY" BY ROBERT GRAHAM you all can see somethings better about AnarchisM
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    hehe no thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Coholic View Post
    ^ Well, if you "admit that's the biggest problem" then why not, for the good of your 'cause' change the name of what you call yourself. Nothing would change but the name. Pick your battles.
    I never said it was the "biggest" problem. It's just a problem. Also the problem is not the word, it's the people. Either they've been misinformed as to what anarchism actually stands for, or they don't understand it.

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    What it "actually" means? At best you can argue there's multiple definitions. The problem being that 99% define it one way, and a few the other. The problem isn't 99% of the population, quit being such a stickler

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Coholic View Post
    What it "actually" means? At best you can argue there's multiple definitions. The problem being that 99% define it one way, and a few the other. The problem isn't 99% of the population, quit being such a stickler
    You don't have to argue, there ARE multiple definitions, open up a dictionary or a textbook, I believe I quoted the American Heritage dictionary. Yes, a word with multiple meanings, like "liberal", like "bow", like "bass", or "mean'. (The technical term for this is a heteronym.) If people can grasp these words and they're multiple meanings, theres' no reason why the fact that "Anarchy" has multiple meanings should be an impasse. Again, the problem is people who have no idea what they're talking about, and thus, are incapable of any substantial input, or people who have been sadly misinformed, which I think is the case most of the time. I also covered this in the other anarchism thread, for further examination.

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    wow its so cool cause i see thos people re really begun to hate from this fool system and remember somepeople said me :hey man its a childish view and more hmmm but you left this idea now(childish word) so im really happy.this discussion is very useful about anarchism cause many people were supposing to anarchism like terror,chaos..... i say again:capitalist media did teach these concept:anarchism:terror-chaos but everyintelligent people know its a big lie.cause media is a big power of this monopolist system.this system did train too many blindmind with this power(when they dont use the weapon) anyway its a different subject.im sorry but i have to remind somethings you again down
    Anarchos(a grek word): an-archos:without chief(without government,without army)anarchism is not a simple idea.it has a long history with giritian zeno(i can say that he was first anarchist philosopher and his theories against platon's state idea)
    anyway anarchism has 2 different view inside it:1. individualistic anarchism(you can see it in usa anarchists) 2.socialist or communist anarchism(in europe,in asia) the root is anarchism is workers and crushing classese like proleteria.bakunin,proudhon,kropotkin,errico malatesta,emma goldman(red amma)....they re really telling this idea.this idea against the capitalism ,emperialism and governments.no governments!no bourgeois.cause government is the power of authority.and its against special property.somebody says"hey anarchism is chaos" its a big lie.cause its not true. this idea a perfect utopia cause anarchism says:freedom,brotherhood,solidarity!!!the centre of anarchism is individual but individual's freedom just can live with society's freedom so first person's freedom and after in this system society's freedom
    many anarchist writers say that"anarchism is the ungovernment socialism"hehe yep anarchism can resemble to socialism or communism(communism means scientific socialist view) but some sides re different like individualism.i said that anarchism shelters different views inside:you can see the christian anarchists or agorist anarchism or primitivist anarchism:but they re all individualist anarko derivatives!and dont forget anarchism is against the relegion blocks like god's kingdom,jesus kingdom or other relegion kingdoms cause these methods take your free views and humanity becomes sheep gangs like in our times.
    i said that its an idea of freedom,its not an idea of chAos.maybe sometimes chaos can live but it cant live foreva!our world is living in killer,butcher governments's hands and humanity is seeing these wars these crimes with empty eyes!just minds,just smashing people can save this world.first nations's folks unite after,these people lifts the limits and nations unite in unlimited world.it seems so hard but people can try it(1848,1870,1905,1915....)and they did it.
    just freedom,brotherhood,solidarity!just these can save us!so viva anarko communist philosophy ! so im sorry for my poor english
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