i always thought this pennywise song kind of sounded like it
I usually think people make too big a deal about supposed ripoffs. But yeah, the issue does seem to get raised more with the Offspring than other bands. Particularly on RFRG, I think some of the criticism is merited- not just because they wrote songs that resembled others- but because ALL of the songs that they resembled were recent hits.
I guess this was in the other thread, but I read that article about CC being "The sucky sound of desperation," and they pointed out all of RFRG's similarities. I've gotta say, since I don't listen to stuff like MCR or Panic! At the Disco, I didn't notice them on my own (except for Rise and Fall/American Idiot). There is a lot of similarity going on there, except I totally disagree with the contention that "Kristy" sounds like "Wake Me up When September Ends," or that "Fix You" sounds like "Chasing Cars."
The article did change my opinion of RFRG a little bit. I initially liked it a lot because it was the first time in a while that they'd stepped out of their own comfort zone and did things that were new for them. Sadly, though, they were far from being new for the overall music scene today.
In the Offspring's defense, though, I think Brett was the one who looked stupid after the whole "All I Want" debacle. I wouldn't be surprised if they put that song on the record half-jokingly given the climate between them and Epitaph. Also, count me among the camp who thinks "Aging Orange" is one of the Vandals' funniest songs.
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I can't be the only one who doesn't care either way?
Even if some songs from the band are influenced by others, more often than not i much prefer the Offspring's incarnation of the riff/melody/whatever preceded it. Dexter wears his influences on his sleeve: (ie Bad Religion and Nirvana were especially prevalent in the band's earlier work): and that's perfectly fine by me.
Originally Posted by Tom Gabel
I hear lots of other bands being accused of the same thing regularly. shit, i read an article on cracked comparing Green Day songs to everything they "ripped off" including American Idiot (uncannily like Dillenger four's Doublewhiskeycokenoice. Tell me you don't hear it). The difference here is that while Madonna has been sued and lost around a dozen times for songs she's copied, the Offspring hasn't been sued. So, while their songs might be comparable to others, the writers of whatever song it sounds like either don't hear it or find it flattering.
I think we mostly hear about it more because The Offspring have kept a lot of ties with the punk rock community and while most of you swear up and down that you listen to all kinds of music, I'm willing to bet most of your iTunes library is made up of old/new school punk or punk related bands. Their fame and fortune extends beyond a lot of these bands because they went mainstream and like it that way. Thus, they become the targets for accusations that could easily be pointed elsewhere.
A lot of the time, I guarantee that this that or the other person was not directly thinking of the song they sound like. it was just somewhere in the back of their head when the mood struck them to write. I don't ever want to be in a position where I have to check the backlogs of the thousands and thousands of songs I am familiar with, just so I can be sure I didn't "copy" someone else's song. While You Will Find A Way was exceptionally similar to Times Like These, I don't believe for a second that it was intentional and when the band was hearing the feedback about how similar it was, it was changed to lessen the similarities.
Ultimately, why on earth do people care so much? Its not your album that's been "stolen".
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Yeah, I think it's silly when people will bitch about...say...Rise and Fall sounding exactly like American Idiot (which does indeed already sound like Doublewhiskeycokenoice by the almighty D4) - to me, that song simply sounds Green Dayish. It doesn't sound like American Idiot in specific. And Days Go By does have a bit of a similar riff to Times Like These, but it's not nearly as crunchy as that song if that makes any sense. The Future is Now really does sound very very similar to Savior though, but I don't really have a problem with that. There are only so many riffs to go around. Hell, Self Esteem sounds kinda like Smells Like Teen Spirit by Nirvana during a couple parts, but I wouldn't call it a rip off really.
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Welcome to the forums, dorkrockcorkrod.
I love the Rise Against song and I've probably heard it a million times. I agree that The Future is Now has a similar vibe to it but I wouldn't call it a rip-off. It's just a typical fast punk rock song with a similar structure.
I would actually love it if The Offspring sounded a bit like Rise Against. Or wasn't it Rise Against that kinda sounded like The Offspring in the first place anyway?
And if this post offends you, just don't read it...
There's only so much you can do with A F C and G. Of course the songs are going to resemble each other. When I try to write music myself I often realize I've just ripped The Offspring or some other band off, it happens.
I also have to agree that while borrowing/stealing musical ideas from other bands is pretty annoying, as long as the guilty party makes a song that's pretty damn awesome and as a whole is something new, I'm cool with it.