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    Quote Originally Posted by NoGuessing View Post
    Days Go By is very derivative, but of The Cult.

    That's the only thing that annoys me about the accusations flying around youtube. Foo Fighters hardcore fans thinking it's a rip off of Times Like These. Hardly. I listen to that song a lot as well.
    It's not just Foo Fighters hardcore fans. Most everyone who listens to that song points out the similarity to "Times Like These". Yes, the riff sounds a lot like The Cult, but the vocal melody and overall musical structure is very clearly modeled after "Times Like These". Especially when you listen to the early version of the song, before they re-did the vocal melody.

    I don't want to be responsible for turning this thread into a repeat of the "Days Go By" thread, but it seems a very obvious parallel to make, and really hard to defend as a simple accident, especially considering the guitar arrangements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoGuessing View Post
    Days Go By is very derivative, but of The Cult.

    That's the only thing that annoys me about the accusations flying around youtube. Foo Fighters hardcore fans thinking it's a rip off of Times Like These. Hardly. I listen to that song a lot as well.
    I'll never be able to entirely see where these people are coming from, because I first heard "You Will Find a Way," which was, unquestionably, a lot like Times Like These. So for me, when I heard "Days Go By," it sounded like a good-enough disguise even if I thought the song was a little bland. I have no idea what my reaction would have been had I never heard "You Will Find a Way."
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoGuessing View Post
    All I Want sounds like Bad Religion? Wtf, I listen to that band all the time. Point me in the direction of a specific song so I can compare, because all I hear is a fast and typically Offspring song.
    Brett criticized "All I Want" as a Bad Religion rip-off when it came out, and I remember a bunch of people joined in the criticism. I defended them at the time, because it sounded like Brett was still sore about them leaving Epitaph... plus, all of that 90s "skate-punk" (I hate that term, but it encompasses the specific style that I'm referring to) seemed to share a common musical vernacular, melodically and structurally.

    But then this story came to light, and the accusations seemed to make a little more sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Man Where's Everybody View Post
    Brett criticized "All I Want" as a Bad Religion rip-off when it came out, and I remember a bunch of people joined in the criticism. I defended them at the time, because it sounded like Brett was still sore about them leaving Epitaph... plus, all of that 90s "skate-punk" (I hate that term, but it encompasses the specific style that I'm referring to) seemed to share a common musical vernacular, melodically and structurally.

    But then this story came to light, and the accusations seemed to make a little more sense.
    Hmm. Without wanting to retread much of this, didn't brett say that Pennywise were just a BR ripoff - youknow, after PW spent 15 odd years on his label making him money?

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    Yes, he did. What does that have to do with whether the song deliberately copies the Bad Religion template (which the band admits)?

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    wow i didn't know he said that about pennywise

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    Actually, I don't know if he said that about Pennywise. I haven't kept up on my Pennywise news. I'm just assuming he did, 'cause Britpunk wouldn't lie, and it sounds like something Brett would say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Man Where's Everybody View Post
    Yes, he did. What does that have to do with whether the song deliberately copies the Bad Religion template (which the band admits)?
    Not much, other than to point out that none of it really matters anyway. If mr brett can suggest that and can still employ them, and be in turn inspired by them in their own right as he suggested very recently, then its a bit stupid to get pissed off by it all.

    I like all three. I'm glad they all exist cause that means more 'skate'punk for me to listen to. I just wish the offspring would do more BR/PW and less the-cult/foo fighters/whatever-the-crap-a-mid-paced-rock-song-is-supposed-to-be-ripping-off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hey Man Where's Everybody View Post
    Britpunk wouldn't lie.
    Not intentionally no.

    I remember reading about BR playing some festival and them bitching that PW were just a cheap imitation of themselves. This would have been early-mid 00's so i assume it came from brett. I can't offer concrete evidence at this hour though...

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    Off the top of my head, Shattered faith sounds a lot like TKAA, so unless there's a story I don't know that tells that it was written before TKAA, it could be considered a "rip-off". If that's the case, Brett shouldn't really point fingers like that.

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