You guys are way too harsh on Justin Bieber: he's punk as fuck. He makes Henry Rollins look like Donny Osmond.
Originally Posted by Tom Gabel
Also, everyone stop quoting his posts. Although I can't see his posts anymore I can still read them when they are quoted, so please try to avoid that.
C'mon guys. Don't just put the guy on your ignore list over one little thing. Of course I haven't learned anything about logic in school (everything I know was learned in my free time), but everything Scythe has said seems valid to me. It's his presentation that is less than desirable. I really love this album, but Scythe has brought up claims that he can easily support that Days Go By is not a masterpiece. My love for the album has gone unaltered. I don't think being slightly rude and making decent points are a good reason to add someone to the ignore list
Go on now they won‘t tell
Go on now and save yourself
How are they not valid? I'm assuming that you are saying that the argument that I provided about 'how person X is an idiot' is invalid, since that's the only explicit argument I provided which I claimed was valid. You see, the term "valid" is actually a very specific term that qualifies a successful deductive argument (in contrast to an inductive one). An argument is valid if it is impossible for the conclusion to be false and the premises to be true. Therefore, if you think that my argument was invalid, I invite you to elaborate on how it is possible for the conclusion to be false yet the premises to be true.
In logic, the term "sound" refers to an argument that is both valid and has a contingently true conclusion. If you'd like to argue that my argument is not sound (given that it's truly valid), then I invite you to say which of my premises you disagree.
Everything I've said about logic thus far is really true though. It's basic logic.
It could also be argued that my presentation all of the time is the little thing. IE, why does it matter if everything I say comes off as asshole-ish if everything I say is true (hypothetically)?