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    Ok...maybe you're not an idiot. But your statement regarding number 3 is pretty fucking stupid. Let me ask you this oh one who is not an idiot...has the video gone away? Is it no longer in existence? Has it completely left this planet and in no possible way can it be viewed? No. Then why have the "protests" with rocket launchers, grenades, guns and murders not continued? Why did it take 6 months for this video to cause such riots and wtf did the American emabssy and murdering people who never had one thing to do with the video have to do with it? And why did the riots and murders accross the ME begin on 911?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOTO13 View Post
    Ok...maybe you're not an idiot. But your statement regarding number 3 is pretty fucking stupid. Let me ask you this oh one who is not an idiot...has the video gone away? Is it no longer in existence? Has it completely left this planet and in no possible way can it be viewed? No. Then why have the "protests" with rocket launchers, grenades, guns and murders not continued? Why did it take 6 months for this video to cause such riots and wtf did the American emabssy and murdering people who never had one thing to do with the video have to do with it? And why did the riots and murders accross the ME begin on 911?
    I mean I guess it went away. I heard that took it off the net so it wouldn't be viewed anymore. They did it for the simple fact that they were americans and Al Qaeda hates americans. They know what 9/11 means to us so why not do it on that day more bad/painful news to us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny Vessels View Post
    I mean I guess it went away. I heard that took it off the net so it wouldn't be viewed anymore. They did it for the simple fact that they were americans and Al Qaeda hates americans. They know what 9/11 means to us so why not do it on that day more bad/painful news to us.
    So we have established that...IT WAS NOT SPONTANEOUS. Baby steps are ok...

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    Interesting... thousands died from a HUGE terrorist attack while a Republican was in power... ON OUR FREAKING SOIL. Yet we're supposed to be mad at Obama for a MUCH smaller attack on foreign soil?? Hilarious.

    Saying that this has hardly been covered is ridiculous... I've been hearing about it constantly since it happened, and I'm not even in the US. Hell, I've read articles where Hilary Clinton called this ambassador a "hero"... really? Diplomats are now heroes? If you ask me, this is getting a ridiculous amount of attention. I've read countless articles about all the research being done to find the best way to prevent something like this from happening again. Tons of money is being spent on this.

    And the Romney tax return thing started in late January - less than 11 months before the election. Tiny Vessels was right about both things. What caused the attack is open for question, but not when the tax return stuff started and how much coverage the attack in Libya is getting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llamas View Post
    Interesting... thousands died from a HUGE terrorist attack while a Republican was in power... ON OUR FREAKING SOIL. Yet we're supposed to be mad at Obama for a MUCH smaller attack on foreign soil?? Hilarious.

    Saying that this has hardly been covered is ridiculous... I've been hearing about it constantly since it happened, and I'm not even in the US. Hell, I've read articles where Hilary Clinton called this ambassador a "hero"... really? Diplomats are now heroes? If you ask me, this is getting a ridiculous amount of attention. I've read countless articles about all the research being done to find the best way to prevent something like this from happening again. Tons of money is being spent on this.

    And the Romney tax return thing started in late January - less than 11 months before the election. Tiny Vessels was right about both things. What caused the attack is open for question, but not when the tax return stuff started and how much coverage the attack in Libya is getting.
    Hillarious? Glad you give two shits about the 4 dead Americans. And when these assholes flew planes into the Twin Towers in 1991, it was basically the beginning of terror as we know it. Nobody saw this coming. There were literally no measures in place to even begin to think of such an act of complete stupidity. Different world then. Get $2 and buy a clue.

    I have heard VERY VERY little on the Libya murders outside of the first 1-2 weeks. Once Sandy hit, what little was being reported...stopped or put on the back burner.

    I have read stories about Romney's returns for over 2 years. This is nothing new. It has been HAMMERED for at least a year. Now let's see how it stacks up against 4 dead Americans murdered on the anniversary of 911 and then the story gets twisted and fucked over trying to blame some god damn video and spontaneous riots. You'd have to be brain dead to believe such bullshit.

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    Huh...cause I was pretty ceratin the Obama adminsitration was talking about this spontaneous riots video bullshit for at least 10 days after. In fact, they sent Hillary's ass down the South America shortly thereafter. She is taking the fall for this like a good little idiot. Expect her to step down as SAS pretty soon.

    My point is...the story was buried because of the election. Because it would do damage to Obama.



    I just read some pretty interesting stuff on your presidents HCA...anyone read anything similar?

    p50..sect 152...The bill will provide insurance to all non-US residents...even if here illegally.

    P272 sect 1145...Cancers hospital will ration health care in accordance with patients age.

    p425...The gov't MANDATES those on SSI (of age) "end of life planning", death counseling, every 5 years.

    p429..the gov't will specify which doctors can write end of life orders.

    Also, this bill does not apply to members of congress or the president.

    This may have been taken out of context, so any added information would be appreciated.

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    I saw this like 3 weeks ago. Have you seen the same information? I am going to get the HCA if available and read it. Yes, you heard right...I can read.

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    Is anyone else gonna point out that he said the twin tower attack was in 1991?
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    Or what? Or you'll leave as soon as someone returns your rudeness and delete all your posts? I'm so scared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Lost_ View Post
    Is anyone else gonna point out that he said the twin tower attack was in 1991?
    I was going to say something but was at work and I didn't have time. Oh Moto... he is something else lol. For someone who's all about facts and history he sure cant get that right. 2001.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Llamas View Post
    Voter turnout this year was lower than usual, at 57.5 percent. 1996 was the last time the US voter turnout was under half, at 49%. And that was the only election since any of us here have been alive that turnout was a "minority" (one percent under half = stretch to call a "minority"...) And maybe - just maybe we have a 10% lower turnout than most countries because a lot of Americans don't like either of the parties and know that the other parties don't have enough money to run the country. Some don't feel that there's any difference. Others find registering difficult (especially the poor) - hell, I found it difficult to register for my first vote in 2004. I voted in 2004 and 2008, but didn't vote this year. Does that make me apathetic? Nope. Not at all.
    The papers I read at the time I made my first post had these numbers, but they were corrected later. There was a bare majority who voted, and Obama won with 3 million votes. The point with Obama winning with 600 000 votes (which is now confirmed to not be accurate) was not meant as a critique. I was just fascinated with the very close election. 3 million votes in between the two candidates is also close.

    I still think the US has a low turn out, but I can understand it. If I were a Democrat living in Texas, I don't know if I would have bother going to vote for Obama. I know that state would've be won by the Republicans. If I nevertheless had voted, my vote would have been thrown away. And that's what I dislike with the First Past the Post system. The whole thing with Electoral Colleges makes it even worse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Llamas View Post
    No, I didn't say that. I just said that's where it comes from. Your joke wasn't obvious, so I was explaining. It'd require an amendment to remove the electoral college, and that's not easy. There have been proposals to alter the process, but none have made it. Two-thirds majority in both houses, plus three-fourths majority of Americans is required to pass an amendment. It's not easy. But proposals will keep coming in and hopefully one of these days one will pass.
    I am glad we agree upon this. I hope for the sake of the US that this will be changed as soon as possible. I can't understand why this doesn't create a debate every 4th year when the presidential election is around. I would be very frustrated if my vote was only advising my state's Electoral College.

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    If by '600,000' you mean '~3,000,000 and potentially rising' and if instead of 'the majority can't be arsed' you actually me 'a majority of those able to vote turned out', then you are totally right.

    Why do you blindly hate America so much, Rage?
    Oh boy, here we go again. For the numbers, read above. For the supposedly "blind hate of America", I don't see where you get that from in this thread. The thing is about this BBS is that all we talk about in regards of politics is the USA. I comment therefore to the various issues in the political realm of the US. The voting system which happens to be the one the US uses is in my opinion flawed and not very democratic. The UK has the same issue with their voting system, and I would be the first one to criticise their system if it were brought up in a thread here. The problem is, it never is. How often do we discuss British elections, or British politics in general? Almost never.

    So in short, I don't "blindly hate America". I criticise the First Past the Post voting system which the US happens to use. Start talk about other countries and their (in my opinion) flawed voting systems, and I will surely criticise them too. Start talk about aspects of the US which I agree upon, and I will argue that they are good things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Llamas View Post
    I don't even live in the US, I'm no patriot, and I dislike the US more than most Americans (I get accused of hating America by a lot of people back home)... and yet I find Rage's blind America-hate to be beyond obnoxious.
    Read above. I don't have a blind hate towards the USA.
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