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    It seems to me that generally speaking, rap doesn't age well. The one exception being the late 80s early 90s era, but in my mind, that's different because that was the era that basically started rap as we know it. Artists from that era were actually pioneers. But since then, there aren't that many rap artists from 10+ years ago that are looked back at fondly (unless of course, they're still active and popular today). There may be the exception here or there, but it happens much less often in rap than in other genres. With rock music, entire subgenres from decades past are listened to and loved just as much as the fans that existed during that era. And to be honest, I think the reason is that rap songs often have less things about them that really grab you as something you'd want to hold on to for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bighead384 View Post
    It seems to me that generally speaking, rap doesn't age well. The one exception being the late 80s early 90s era, but in my mind, that's different because that was the era that basically started rap as we know it. Artists from that era were actually pioneers. But since then, there aren't that many rap artists from 10+ years ago that are looked back at fondly (unless of course, they're still active and popular today). There may be the exception here or there, but it happens much less often in rap than in other genres. With rock music, entire subgenres from decades past are listened to and loved just as much as the fans that existed during that era. And to be honest, I think the reason is that rap songs often have less things about them that really grab you as something you'd want to hold on to for years.
    I don't really know if this is the case. Rap tends to take very contemporary themes into the songs, while a lot of rock genres may deal with a lot of abstract nearly-meaningless subjects. If rappers are rapping about how bad Bush Sr. is, they are not very relevant for today, while rockers might sing about the love over the mountains that you felt in your heart, that is relevant as long as humans are in existence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RageAndLov View Post
    I don't really know if this is the case. Rap tends to take very contemporary themes into the songs, while a lot of rock genres may deal with a lot of abstract nearly-meaningless subjects. If rappers are rapping about how bad Bush Sr. is, they are not very relevant for today, while rockers might sing about the love over the mountains that you felt in your heart, that is relevant as long as humans are in existence.
    That might be something to take into account, but to be honest, it's kind of a stretch to think that fully or even mostly explains it. It's not as if there's some terrible stigma attached to otherwise good songs that have outdated subject matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bighead384 View Post
    That might be something to take into account, but to be honest, it's kind of a stretch to think that fully or even mostly explains it. It's not as if there's some terrible stigma attached to otherwise good songs that have outdated subject matter.

    Big City Liberals and their allies love defending rap from guys like me. I'm surprised this thread hasn't gotten many replies.
    Why drag politics into this? =/

    Anyway, the only rap I enjoy is from the 80s, and 90s (basically the early form like you said).

    Although I do enjoy the rap mixed with rock (Zebrahead, and Bloodhound Gang are two examples).

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    Haha, I just heard Outkast being played during the Falcons/Seahawks playoff game
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    The Vines had that one hit ages ago that played a bunch on fuse, but considering their lack of EVER touring at all, especially in the U.S., and the singer's career crippling mental illnesses, I don't see how you consider them to have any staying power in the U.S....

    There are easily way more rock bands that were "one and done" when it came to popular singles or albums.
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    You'd be hard pressed to think of more rap examples without making serious stretches.
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    Haha, I just heard Outkast being played during the Falcons/Seahawks playoff game
    Point in case.

    And yeah, Lost, there's a lot of rock bands where that's the case. That doesn't mean rock bands with staying power are rare, though.
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    I don't really care what music "ages well" because I like what I like. However, "10+ years ago" was basically the 90s. Anyway, I really like some of the popular rap hits from the early 2000's, like Shake it Fast, and a bunch of songs from Nelly and Ludacris. I dunno when Busta Rhymes was popular, but he had some really good ones, as well. Oh, and fricken' Outkast! They were awesome. Eminem, Jay Z, Snoop Dogg, Atmosphere, The Roots, Lupe Fiasco, Kid Cudi, Brother Ali, are and were active in other decades, so I guess they're not included for some reason.

    Oh, and Nas and Mos Def were pretty good. And Jurassic 5!! I dunno... I dunno if rap "ages well" overall, but I personally enjoy a lot of rap from the early 2000s and late 90s.
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    The one & only TUPAC. He's hella fine but his lyrics are what did it for me. I wish he'd be making more music. RIP.



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    Honestly, I feel like it's exactly the opposite. Then again, I have fond memories of playing Sega Genesis with my favorite uncle while '90s gangsta rap blasted in the background, so I might be a little biased.

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