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    Well, we're both right. But I think I am also right in your anecdote. Why was your friend doing pot? Because it's risky? Because he feels good with it? It's still illegal. But he did it. Are anecdotes really bad? People would rather hear stories than numbers.

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    I get my news from FOX News, the most trusted name in news.
    OK, that's total shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOTO13 View Post
    I get my news from FOX News, the most trusted name in news.
    HA! I call bullshit, but hey it's FOX News if they say they are the most trusted then all conservative believe it. Whatever the conservatives believe it must be right, god forbid you disagree with them.


    It's more like FAUX News.

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    I get my news from FOX News, the most trusted name in news.
    I call bullshit troll.

    Are anecdotes really bad? People would rather hear stories than numbers.
    They're neither good nor bad. They just don't substitute for actual evidence.

    And some children would prefer to believe in Santa Claus, guess that means he's real.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Godxilla View Post
    Nostradamus was also the man who predicted WW2 and Napoleon.

    You see, I get my news stories from the nightly news here in Massachusetts (a liberal state, FYI). Just because the newscasters cry over every murder doesn't mean we have to. A very distant relative of mine just died. She had been a drug addict, apparently, for a while. I hear from my dad (who went) that the funeral was closed-casket. But banning drugs hasn't stopped people like her. It only made her unable to seek help. Bans don't always work, my friends.
    By that logic, we should legalize all drugs, yes? Laws against murder don't stop people from murdering each other, either... might as well legalize murder. Then at least it'd be legal to murder all the murderers, right?
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    I do not drink alcohol and coffee

    I do not smoke and do not do drugs

    I just do bumpin in my trunk

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    Quote Originally Posted by Llamas View Post
    By that logic, we should legalize all drugs, yes? Laws against murder don't stop people from murdering each other, either... might as well legalize murder. Then at least it'd be legal to murder all the murderers, right?
    Well, if we legalize drugs, then the dealers will be broke. My source on this? Businessweek. I think they'd know.

    And those who can't control themselves would be weeded out of the population. Is this bad? Darwin would have liked it. Sometimes, the burdens to a race need to be weeded out. It gives us all a better chance.
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    My source on this? Businessweek. I think they'd know.
    Ah, the "Argument from Authority." Someone said so, they have expertise, therefore they're correct. Why are they correct? Based on what model? What statistics do they have to show their work?
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    I was wondering something the other day. How does the whole legalized pot deal work? Wisconsin is a smoke free state. You can't smoke in restaurants etc. Also it is a drug. Unless there were specific places made to get high, where are you allowed to smoke pot? I assume the only legal place would be at your home. Wouldn't it be like alcohol? You can't have it at work, in your car or anywhere else because it is a controlled substance (like say beer) along with the smoke free environment situation. So if pot were legal in Wisconsin, where could you smoke it besides at your home home?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Static_Martyr View Post
    Ah, the "Argument from Authority." Someone said so, they have expertise, therefore they're correct. Why are they correct? Based on what model? What statistics do they have to show their work?
    Well, I read it in a printed form. So, maybe I could go look it up. Is this what you'd like?
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    Well, I read it in a printed form. So, maybe I could go look it up. Is this what you'd like?
    Why do you care what I would "like?" Why don't you just try to make your own independent argument to the best of your ability?

    If you're just quoting what someone else said, and you have no understanding of it, then that's fine. But it seems disingenuous to pretend as if you have your own ideas about it, when you can't even put it into your own words.
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    Regarding gun nuts....we just had a really odd situation. I've been in a sort of ongoing argument/debate about gun control with a guy on a random Facebook page I sometimes frequent. He's really stupid and psychotically aggressive; he actually managed to track down my street address somehow (I have no idea how, as I never post anything online that could be used to track down my physical location, such as workplaces or events or places I will be....even my name is sort of a trick), and he was threatening to kill me and my family in response to some comments I'd made about gun laws. The good news is that it was my old street address from a few years ago, so the crisis was largely averted....lol....but it's still creepy. This country is getting dangerously polarized. You can't even SAY anything about guns without having death threats directed at you; I've received three similar threats in the last few days from different users on the same page, but none of them had gone so far as to dig up my personal information. People are getting really delusional with rage about this gun issue....and what makes it so bad is, there's nothing even really happening. Obama said he might reinstate an assault weapons ban; I haven't heard any details about other proposed legislation. These reactions are solely based on hype and paranoia; if Obama ever actually did anything to "take away people's guns," I think there is probably a real chance that some of these people may actually try to start an insurrectionist movement. It'd fail miserably, of course --- tanks and missiles and bombs tend to outclass handguns and rifles --- but just the level of dedication to sheer lunacy expressed by these people is unnerving. Makes me want to move to Canada.

    I mean, I'm no huge fan of Obama, but people are taking their hatred for this guy to extremes that I haven't seen before. I went to the G.W. Bush protest rallies and such back during his presidency, and the worst you saw there were nutjobs whining about 9/11 being an inside job. You didn't hear death threats and gun nuts going on about shooting the president or his supporters. It's crazy.
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