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    Quote Originally Posted by bighead384 View Post
    I respect that you guys are insisting on attention to important details so as not to unfairly slight a whole group of people, but I don't see how saying something like "radical muslims" is inappropriate. Not all Muslims are being slighted, just the radical ones in groups like Al-Qaeda.

    And T-6005, I'm not sure I agree with how you're applying the term "terrorism" to this argument. Sure, terrorism is best defined as a political statement, but since when are politics and religion mutually exclusive? Basically everything in the list below involves religion and politics.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motives...ber_11_attacks

    Their religion is a big part of why they have committed these acts. I don't understand why it is wrong to focus on that.
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    I haven't read a large part of this thread, but bighead originally said 'Like many, I'm wondering if this is the work of radical muslims.' That seems to have been blown way out of proportion, he wasn't demonizing brown people, shit talking foreigners, or hate mongering. He simply said 'I'm wondering if this is the work of radical muslims', which all things considered, was a pretty reasonable question. I'm not a fan of speculation, but he wasn't even doing that.
    Well, to both of these - the original point is that 'Muslim terrorist' is a media-invented category that explains itself. You already know what an Islamic extremist is when you hear the term, and it completely hides the reality of the situation - that there are different types of Muslims, that some are unaffiliated with al-Qaeda, that their actions are based very often more on regional geo-politics than a global jihadi movement. It is a term which ignores all of that, and commonly deployed as soon as any corroborating information is found, it stops the story at a point of such simplicity that it gives an impression of motivations and processes which are downright wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by MOTO13 View Post
    Trust me, your totally stupid fucking point was not missed. You do not understand what terrorism is or you wouldn't even equate the two. Start listing the Christian abortion clinic bombings idiscrminently killing innocent people first off. You know...blowing people all to shit NOWHERE near a clinic just because that is where you happen to lay a fucking bomb. Killing and maiming anyone or anything in sight just for the sake of blowing off a bomb and somehow reconciling it with some dip-shitted idea that it will draw attention to something. Killing people who have ZERO...nada...nothing to do with anything you might be pissed off about...they were simply unlucky enough to be in the area of the bombing. Secondly, abortion clinics are factories made to kill babies. If you want to twist it up enough, you could, in some derranged way, call eliminating abortion clinics saving lives. I wouldn't go that far by any means but it illustrates a point. Hell, why not call one kid beating up another kid terrorism...one of them was scared i am sure.
    Wow. So you really just don't know anything, huh?
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    Short...yeah maybe. Never had any complaints yet.

    As far as the entire Muslim, radical muslim, Al queda etc bullshit...I have heard very little outcry from Muslims around the world in general regarding the dispicable acts performed by Muslims over the past 12 years. Sure there has been the occaisional condemnation by some Muslims and to their credit, they have spoken out against these TERRORIST acts performed around the world. As a whole, it has been pathetic. I mean seriously, the mere idea and then pursuing the possibilty of building a fucking mosque at 911 ground zero? Pretty much a fuck you move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOTO13 View Post
    I mean seriously, the mere idea and then pursuing the possibilty of building a fucking mosque at 911 ground zero? Pretty much a fuck you move.
    Community center that was several blocks away from ground zero run by people that just happen to be Muslim. I figured we were all past that controversy by now. Calling it a ground zero mosque at this point is kinda the same thing as "if humans evolved from monkeys then why are there still monkeys". Though I shouldn't be so harsh, I wasn't exactly a paragon of political discourse when I was 13 years old either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0r4ng3 View Post
    Community center that was several blocks away from ground zero run by people that just happen to be Muslim. I figured we were all past that controversy by now. Calling it a ground zero mosque at this point is kinda the same thing as "if humans evolved from monkeys then why are there still monkeys". Though I shouldn't be so harsh, I wasn't exactly a paragon of political discourse when I was 13 years old either.
    A community center...just happen to be Muslim. You just happen to be naive. It's a friggin mosque. It's a god damn trophy site. There are probably 200 mosques already in NY and they just happened to want to put another one at ground zero and call it a community center. You have to have head full of hammers to even begin to buy that line of bullshit. Remember ground zero? The place where 3000 innocent Americans were murdered in the prime of their lives when Muslims flew airplanes full of passangers into the Twin Towers for whatever fucked up reason. Muslims just wanted to build another MOSQUE to heal wounds...of course. Shit, while we're at it, let's put up a statue of Charles Manson near the Tate murder site. Holy shit, fucking unbelievable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOTO13 View Post
    MUSLIM...PERIOD. Add up all the Muslim terrorist attacks beginning with the 911 Twin Towers. Subtract those attacks from ALL known terrorist attacks. Bet you have a really small number leftover.
    So you really have no reading comprehension.

    The term terrorist is itself idiotic. The United States is a terrorist state in much of the world. It hasn't declared war on a large majority of the countries it has bombed. What, because a state did it, it's alright that some kids died?

    That's my problem - not necessarily who was responsible for the Boston bombings. If it was Muslim extremists, it was Muslim extremists. Why would I bother saying otherwise?

    But to honestly believe that 'terrorists' and 'Muslims' have been synonymous in the last decade because of an idiotic distinction made by idiots is... well, I think I've overused the word.

    Who kills people for no reason, indeed, MOTO13? Why not US Marines, who murdered 24 people in Haditha in cold blood? Not combatants, not 'terrorists,' but the children and the elderly.

    It's an event that's of note only because it wasn't ordered. Look at the Collateral Murder video. That was ordered - I suppose it must be alright. After all 'shit happens' in war. 2 dead Reuters journalists become acceptable casualties once we realize - 'wait, we're totally at war there, what were they thinking?' Look at the tens of thousands - 9/11 dozens of times over - that have died in foothills and in the fields because they needed to farm a poppy field and didn't realize judgment was coming from halfway around the world.

    Holy shit - what if 'the terrorists' declared war on us? Wouldn't it be totally alright for them to do what they're doing? I think so! Shit, 'in war' things are totes my goats straight different broski.

    Not possible, though. They're not a country. This shit doesn't make sense. MY HEAD HURTS

    Congratulations on living in fear in the world's most terrifyingly aggressive police state. You must feel so good that we're finally getting 'them Muslims' good. What Muslims? Who cares, they're all the same. Surely not the ones armed and trained by the CIA. Surely we didn't invade a state who, under a brutal dictatorship, benefited from the 4th best equipped land army in the world in 1991 (based on weapons the US and Europe sold to them), then managed to replicate the exact same idiotic scenario twelve years later because 'we' couldn't stop ejaculating weapons all over the rest of the world?

    But hey, let's 'invade' Iraq because they have a tie to al-Qaeda, which is all terrorists all the time, never mind Iraq's originally 35% Sunni population. Except that they didn't have a tie to al-Qaeda, shit shit shit, what do we do? Well, Saddam's a horrible human being, let's blame him for the Halabja massacre. What? We removed Iraq from the list of states not to sell weapons to and directly marketed to him, allowing this? That doesn't sound right. We should free that part of the world right the fuck up and set it right.

    I think, like anything else, MOTO13, I have to congratulate you. You're clearly unwilling to read what I'm writing. Beyond that, you're very stupid and a fairly standard bigot. The world is much more complex than either of us could ever imagine, and the way that it plays itself out requires all of us to try as best we can to understand the causes of violent actions. But the media-saturated soup in which we find ourselves kills the impetus to think. It becomes easier not to. It should make you mad. It makes me mad.

    It sounds like only one of us is willing to try. I'll let you and your painfully-sized penis attempt to figure it out.
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    I bring up the Kill Team and Thi blows my shit outta the water with a much better example.
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    Or what? Or you'll leave as soon as someone returns your rudeness and delete all your posts? I'm so scared.

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