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    Default Race to The White House!

    I'm surprised we're not talking about this yet.

    Can Sanders win the Democratic nomination? Clinton comes with so much baggage, i.e. Bengazi, Blowjob Bill, losing in 2008, the email thing... and Sanders, well, his campaign seemed like a write-off for so long, but now he's ahead in the polls in the first two primaries coming up next month. For the longest time I'd thought he was just there to wedge Clinton to the left on social issues, but his now his campaign has the momentum of a runaway freight train. Why is he so popular?

    On the other side of the coin is Trump... I know we're all entertained by the spectacle, but are there really enough stupid people at large that when it comes crush time they will push that button? Generally I can't empathise with anyone stupid enough to be a Republican, but at the very least go for a moderate-seeming jerk like Rubio, who I'd put money on previously but am now not so sure about. Jeb! was always going to crash and burn, you can't make a hattrick out of a political legacy as shallow as that family name. In any other race I'd consider Cruz to be the too-idiotically-conservative-to-get-a-serious-look-in candidate, but this has not been your normal campaign. Not by a long shot.

    Or has it?

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    You must have had the majority of what little brain you have to even consider being a liberal or continuing this liberal policy disaster. Hillary is a fucking lying snake in a bitch's clothing and Sanders is a friggin hardcore socialist with no redeeming value other than hopefully he'll be dead soon. These two retards are the best and brightest the dems have? What a god dam joke...laughable. I'd take Trump or Cruz over either of these two democratic petri dish disasters. Hillary Clinton does not have ONE redeeming quality. Not one. Anyone who thinks she is fit for anything other than a prison cell needs jump in front of a bus. Bernie Sanders will kill the American spirit with his glad handing stupidity that lowers intelligence by 40 IQ points across his base he preaches to..basically wards of the state.

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    MOTO13, thank you for your contribution.

    You claim that Sanders is a "hardcore socialist", your words carrying the implication that socialism is a bad thing, but how can that be if by definition it means more ownership of essential resources for all? Sanders believes in equitable access to health and education, and a fairer distribution of wealth among many other things. Do you disagree with that in principle? What do they Republican candidates have to offer as a better alternative? More guns for everyone, including terrorists?

    I'm no fan or defender of Clinton, not by a long shot. You make a lot of assumptions about me, and some are more than fair in retrospect of my initial post, but I should specify I am no Democrat enthusiast. I believe the 2-party system is regressive and anachronistic, but given the tendency of the American people to swing the pendulum from one party to another, and the penchant the Republican party has for being dangerously tribal and incompetent in all aspects, I'd be relieved beyond belief to see them kept out of the oval office for another 4 years.

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    This country rose to prominence based on CAPTIALSIM...not socialism. You have the best and brightest rise to the top in this type economy. Yet we have people in this country screwing over the system at every turn looking for a fucking handout, this isn't good for long term health. Fact is, many of the people we have now as citizens and WANTING to be citizens are leeches of the state, and by and large, the LIBERAL view pushes reliance on the government. Socialism doesn't work. Look at any socialistic country...it's a POS. If you think, and actually believe, you need socialism to get by in this country with it's economy and opportunities, you are literally a friggin moron....you need to get out.

    Why anyone would want Sanders running the economy is mind numbing. He is what 75 years old and has a piss ant net worth of $600,00? What a joke. And he thinks he can run a country worth hundreds of trillions? Give me a break. The guy has been a political hack and socialist his entire life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwayne Mosley View Post
    Sanders, well, his campaign seemed like a write-off for so long, but now he's ahead in the polls in the first two primaries coming up next month. For the longest time I'd thought he was just there to wedge Clinton to the left on social issues, but his now his campaign has the momentum of a runaway freight train. Why is he so popular?
    It's because the democratic party has gone far left

    Also this thread should be in the Politics section

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    MOTO13, the premise of your straw man argument is based on the assumption that we are all born bereft of disadvantage. The wealthiest of the wealthy in the United States occupy that privileged position because their parents did before them, by and large and more often than not. There are of course self-made men who came from nothing, but they are the exception to the rule. Donald Trump's father gave him "a small loan of a million dollars" to start a real estate business when he was a young adult. Even you couldn't deny the correlation between success and opportunity. The poorer you are, the less access you have to many services essential for prosperity - quality health care, education, friends in the right places, etc.

    I'm sure you believe that anyone can make it in the United States if they work for it, and for poorer people that just means they have to do so twice as hard. To a degree that's true. I don't think anyone should be demonised exclusively for being rich, but in our current system the bigger your parents' bank balance the more the chips are stacked in your favour. Sanders wants everyone to have access to substantial health care and education so that the best and brightest CAN rise to the top, not just those born with a silver spoon in their mouth. Our health and education systems are regarded as some of the worst in the world. Most compatible Western countries have it figured out far better than us. It is not against the spirit of this country to level out the disincentives that puts many lower and middle class people behind the rest, such as accumulating student debt to the tune of 6-figures.

    Bernie Sanders is not the "hardcore socialist" many of his critics paint him as. He would not disassemble our democratic system, he would strength it, creating more opportunity for all as per the so-called American Dream. Writing him off for having a net worth of just over half a million dollars is ridiculous, and carries the classist implication that the more money you have, the more weight your status and opinion should carry. What if you have different ideals priorities in life than to rise to the top bracket of income earners?

    Quote Originally Posted by cool 2 hate 681 View Post
    It's because the democratic party has gone far left

    Also this thread should be in the Politics section
    That would've made perfect sense in the past, when this was a more active forum.

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    So some people inherit wealth? So what? Some peoples parents sacrifice for their kids in order to give them some help. Other parents could care less. That's pretty much life on planet earth. I'll say it again...the playing field will never EVER be level and totally fair. If you think some outside force like Bernie Sanders is going the help you when you're too dumb to do it for yourself, you're sadly mistaken. The playing field should never be fair for all. It's impossible. The only thing most people want who believe this is someone else's benefit with no effort on their own part. Fuck these people...they deserve to be poor. The harder you work and quit bitching about what someone else has, the better for yourself. In America, if you can't become at least a middle class success, it's your own damn fault. Bernie Sanders is a socialistic mis-guided fool.

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