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    Domino's is fucking awful, Pizza Hut is acceptable but so greasy it always makes me feel terrible afterwards and so Papa John's would usually win out when ordering cheap chain pizza. I liked their pizza well enough, but their breadsticks and garlic butter were great.

    The best pizza I had was from non-chain places in Portland. Much more expensive than chain though.

    And yes, in my experience British pizza is total crap and insanely overpriced. Can you believe people actually love Domino's here? And, if anything, Domino's actually tastes considerably worse here. I've also just generally stopped going out to eat because the service in restaurants is basically non-existent compared to what you'd expect in the states, everything is horribly overpriced and the food generally isn't anything special anyway. It's so sad when British people get excited recommending restaurants to me and then I discover it's just shit and they don't know any better. Now, this should not be used to support the argument that British food is crap. British food can be fantastic, just more in the home-cooked area, or basic fish and chip shop, greasy spoon cafe or pub grub areas.

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    When you've finished all the pizza and comtemplate finishing off the garlic butter dip that is left over.
    I thought that shit was required so it doesn't go to waste.
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    Damn, British pizza must be the worst shit if American pizza is better :P Besides a proper deep dish in Chicago. That stuff is amazing.
    What's wrong with American pizza and where do you think is it better?

    Papa John's was my favorite of the chain places, but since Domino's completely redid their recipe in the last couple years, they've gotten a lot better. My favorite place for pizza in general is a place called Gearo's in northeast Philly. Unfortunately it's far enough out of the way that I don't get to go there too often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Llamas View Post
    Damn, British pizza must be the worst shit if American pizza is better :P Besides a proper deep dish in Chicago. That stuff is amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Llamas View Post
    Damn, British pizza must be the worst shit if American pizza is better :P Besides a proper deep dish in Chicago. That stuff is amazing.
    If you can't find good pizza in America, you have no one to blame but yourself. I like deep dish pizza enough, but I gotta agree with Stewart for the most part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nieh View Post
    What's wrong with American pizza and where do you think is it better?
    Generally speaking, I've never really had a problem with the cheese or sauce on pizzas at a few good places in the US. And I liked those places a lot until I moved. But. First of all, there's the bread/crust. Pizza is supposed to be eaten with a knife and fork. It is not supposed to come on a disc of solid mass that you just hoist up with ease. If you eat it with your hands, it's supposed to fall all over the place and make a mess. The crust on American pizza is way too thick - and if you get "thin crust", it's hard and crispy. I guess "thin crust" (I use it in quotes because it seems to be the name of a variety of crust only in the US) is slightly better, but not much. The best crust I ever had in the US was beer battered, and the taste was great (most crust on American pizza is relatively flavorless for me), but it was still wayyyyy too thick. The texture is just all off. It also helps that where I live, pizzas are always cooked in wood-burning ovens. Most pizza places in the US use electric or gas ovens, and the taste is completely different. More importantly, there are the toppings. At an American pizza place, you probably have around 30 toppings to choose from, and you mix and match to decide which ones you want on a pizza. What I'm a far greater fan of is having a menu of interesting pizza choices (I am talking about Italy, Slovenia, Austria - I'm guessing anywhere within proximity to Italy) - perhaps there's a pizza with anchovies, capres, green olives, and red onions - with a sprinkle of horseradish? Or maybe the one with sliced prosciutto, sliced ham, artichokes, klobasa, mushrooms, and green olives - and literally everything was sliced fresh that day? I like that I can get an egg cracked in the middle of my pizza before cooking. I like that I can get tuna as a topping. I like that a margarita here is actually a margarita and not just a cheese pizza. I can even get fresh rucola covering my entire pizza. I don't know how pizza compares elsewhere. I've had it in (from worst to best) the US, Czech, Austria, Slovenia, and Italy - Czech pizza is pretty bad, as well. They make the crust right and cook it in a wood-burning oven, but sometimes the sauce is literally just ketchup... sick. But I know that I had a visitor this summer who asked me if I miss Papa John's and the like. I couldn't say no faster. :P
    Quote Originally Posted by WebDudette View Post
    If you can't find good pizza in America, you have no one to blame but yourself. I like deep dish pizza enough, but I gotta agree with Stewart for the most part.
    I give deep dish as pass because it's just damn tasty. I agree that it's not actually pizza - pizza is to be made on flatbread with everything on top. I don't even think of deep dish in Chicago as pizza - I just think of it as delicious. Something different. I guess it's because normal pizza seems to have been ruined since it went to the US, so I don't miss that at all, but Chicago deep dish is something you can't get anywhere else at all, so I do miss that. Oh, AND - I hate that pizza in the US is huge and meant to serve multiple people. I like going to a normal restaurant, choosing a pizza on a plate with a knife and fork, and that's my restaurant dinner. Hard to find in the US. Doable, but rare.
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    I really have no particular bias to a certain style of pizza. I suppose my go to one is "New York" but even then, I love a nice ultra thin crust too. It's all good. Local chains are by rule of thumb usually much better than chains. But honestly, I can even stomach pizza hut or papa johns ( for the latter I need to be adequately intoxicated).

    Quote Originally Posted by Llamas View Post
    Generally speaking, I've never really had a problem with the cheese or sauce on pizzas at a few good places in the US. And I liked those places a lot until I moved. But. First of all, there's the bread/crust. Pizza is supposed to be eaten with a knife and fork. It is not supposed to come on a disc of solid mass that you just hoist up with ease. If you eat it with your hands, it's supposed to fall all over the place and make a mess. The crust on American pizza is way too thick - and if you get "thin crust", it's hard and crispy. I
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    I like that my need to slurp garlic butter has spurred this conversation.

    We've got some great local pizza places around here. My favorite is PieWorks. You can just tell that the toppings were chopped fresh that day, possibly even as the pizza was made. So fresh and delicious. Then, there is the Wolfgang Puck Pizza Bar, which is the child of a much bigger Wolfgang Puck Restaurant chain, but there are only 3 of the pizza bars, 2 of which are near me. The ingredient combinations are what we would consider unusual, but totally delicious!
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    I have Casey gas station deliver my pizza. Their large taco pizza is pretty good for $12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Llamas View Post
    Pizza is supposed to be eaten with a knife and fork.
    No.
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    It also helps that where I live, pizzas are always cooked in wood-burning ovens. Most pizza places in the US use electric or gas ovens, and the taste is completely different.
    There's plenty of brick oven places in the states. I can't comment on the ratio of places that have them here compared to other countries, but it's not like it's a rarity here.
    Quote Originally Posted by Llamas View Post
    What I'm a far greater fan of is having a menu of interesting pizza choices (I am talking about Italy, Slovenia, Austria - I'm guessing anywhere within proximity to Italy) - perhaps there's a pizza with anchovies, capres, green olives, and red onions - with a sprinkle of horseradish? Or maybe the one with sliced prosciutto, sliced ham, artichokes, klobasa, mushrooms, and green olives - and literally everything was sliced fresh that day? I like that I can get an egg cracked in the middle of my pizza before cooking. I like that I can get tuna as a topping. I like that a margarita here is actually a margarita and not just a cheese pizza. I can even get fresh rucola covering my entire pizza.
    There are tons of places that do that kind of stuff in America. Granted, they might be in the minority, but you really don't have to go to another country to get them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Llamas View Post
    Oh, AND - I hate that pizza in the US is huge and meant to serve multiple people. I like going to a normal restaurant, choosing a pizza on a plate with a knife and fork, and that's my restaurant dinner. Hard to find in the US. Doable, but rare.
    I really don't think that's a problem, especially if you have multiple people that want pizza at the same time, but I don't know where you've been going that you think the huge pizzas are the only option. Every single pizza chain out there offers smaller pizzas, and the vast, vast, vast majority of non-chain places I've gone that don't focus pretty exclusively on pizza by the slice offer personal pan pizzas.
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