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    Sparta doesn't strike me as being more civilized than Athens, especially considering that boys were expected to murder helots to be considered men...
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    Who says it was? You're putting words in my mouth. I'm saying one cannot compare them.

    And anyway, as we owe our own forms of government to Ancient Greece and derive our hierarchy from Rome, going about dissing them is rather childish and ludicrous. Even their decadence and death foreshadow our own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harleyquiiinn View Post
    In ancient Greece, women were not truly humans and everybody who wasn't a citizen was a slave. Basically the same thing in Rome...
    I wasn't actually saying this was the peak of civilization. I was arguing against the 1850's being the peak of civilization by suggesting that in some ways even ancient Rome and Greece were more advanced.

    Still, civilization really means different things to different people. For me a society is not fully civilized without a high degree of liberty and equality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Duskygrin View Post
    homosexuals DID have an impact on culture
    I'd wager culture had more of an impact on them. I'm thinking of Oscar Wilde's imprisonment, for example.
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    Right, and if you think you've got any freedom in our so-called democracies, you are fooling yourself.
    As for equality, that is a joke on a whole another level.

    PS.: re Oscar Wilde. The circumstances of the trial were unique. Not every homosexual got that treatment, right? Rent boys, provocation, mad father... it was all very special.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskygrin View Post
    Who says it was? You're putting words in my mouth. I'm saying one cannot compare them.

    And anyway, as we owe our own forms of government to Ancient Greece and derive our hierarchy from Rome, going about dissing them is rather childish and ludicrous. Even their decadence and death foreshadow our own.
    Going around using the word dissing suggests that you may not be as enamoured of grammar from the 1850s-1890s as you might suggest.

    Also, Ha-to-the-ha llamas, you selective descriptivist!
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    Might be a suggestion I don't give a fuck either way. In case you hadn't noticed before...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskygrin View Post
    Right, and if you think you've got any freedom in our so-called democracies, you are fooling yourself.
    As for equality, that is a joke on a whole another level.
    I consider myself a socialist and to say I despise capitalism would be fairly accurate. If you toned down the hyperbole there I'd probably align myself closely with you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Duskygrin View Post
    Might be a suggestion I don't give a fuck either way. In case you hadn't noticed before...
    I do hope you're not getting as angry as that post sounds. We're all just having a pleasant chat after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paint_It_Black View Post
    Being a tad too literal perhaps.Of course I'm joking. Though my point was still valid. Regardless of intent your definition of what a word is validated "genocidal". It clearly gets its point across to the vast majority of people.
    I still think it needs to be qualified with explanation for the majority of people to get its point, though, so it still quite doesn't qualify for me.
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    Also, Ha-to-the-ha llamas, you selective descriptivist!
    Haha, I like it!! New tagline.

    I don't know how anyone can choose the peak of civilization as much, much more violent times. When speaking of language, I suppose that the artistic side of language peaked then... but artistic usage of language is hardly the most important part of society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paint_It_Black View Post
    I consider myself a socialist and to say I despise capitalism would be fairly accurate. If you toned down the hyperbole there I'd probably align myself closely with you.



    I do hope you're not getting as angry as that post sounds. We're all just having a pleasant chat after all.
    I don't consider myself anything at all, or even a citizen of anywhere.
    Not anger, no, and I have my komboloi should anything anger me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Llamas View Post
    I still think it needs to be qualified with explanation for the majority of people to get its point
    Shame we can't test it.

    Well, it's a shame for me anyway. It's fortunate for you.

    Do I really need to use an emoticon to be on the safe side? *sigh* :P

    Quote Originally Posted by Llamas View Post
    artistic usage of language is hardly the most important part of society.
    A dedicated student of aesthetics might not agree with you and to be fair there really is no objectively right answer.
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