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    Default It's okay to pirate a band's music if they're well-off enough

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    I can say for sure that I don't bat an eyelid to downloading a Pink album (more of a "guilty pleasure" if I felt guilt for listening to any kind of music, and would never spend money on her - would go without listening to her before buying her albums), but any artist I TRULY love, I want to buy their stuff. However, nowadays my favorite artists aren't huge. That's not because I'm a hipster or anything, but because what gets huge is getting narrower and narrower, less interesting, less diverse, etc. Eminem is probably the biggest artist I'm genuinely into... I guess no, I don't feel bad about downloading his stuff.

    But the area is very grey. I want to buy the albums of bands like Cake, Arctic Monkeys, Regina Spektor, Vampire Weekend... not sure exactly how rich any of them are, but I respect them all enough that I genuinely think they deserve to my money, even if they don't get a whole lot off my purchase (I try to buy albums at shows, though - then they get a bigger cut).
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    Piracy is so 2000-and-late. I use Spotify; finally caved and got the premium version. It's almost like having the music in my library, and I can play it anywhere (I will still buy an album independently if I really like it). I used to be wary about whether the artists got paid enough from things like Spotify, but guess what? If they're not, they should probably get some better lawyers, because their music is on there and they ain't doin' nothin' about it.

    I do think the system by which consumers are supposed to blindly buy an album without hearing any of it except a single is way outdated, and I think any artists that obsessively keep their new music off of things like Spotify are behind the times. Someone usually puts it up, and I will find it. I don't download the music, I don't give it to my friends, I don't listen to it on my commute unless I like it. If I preview an album on Youtube and really like it, I'll buy it. If I just kinda like it, I may favorite the video. If I don't like it, I never listen to it again. Who's really losing anything by that?

    Generally, I don't pay any attention to how much money the artist makes one way or another, although I'm more likely to share music or buy merch from artists who aren't as well-off. And the very last thing I pirated before I stopped was the entire Beatles discography, because who really gives a shit about whether Paul and Yoko ever get paid again.
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    When it comes to music piracy, it's not so much the artist that I'm worried about, but everyone else who goes into the production/distribution/marketing of an album. I feel like it's all those little people who get hurt the most from music piracy, so I always buy hard copies of albums I want to get. I end up with less music, but I get more time to appreciate a new album when I get it instead of just downloading an artist's entire discography and only listening to a couple songs.
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    I 'steal' first and when I think the record is good enough I buy. As easy as that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XYlophonetreeZ View Post
    Piracy is so 2000-and-late. I use Spotify; finally caved and got the premium version. It's almost like having the music in my library, and I can play it anywhere (I will still buy an album independently if I really like it). I used to be wary about whether the artists got paid enough from things like Spotify, but guess what? If they're not, they should probably get some better lawyers, because their music is on there and they ain't doin' nothin' about it.

    I do think the system by which consumers are supposed to blindly buy an album without hearing any of it except a single is way outdated, and I think any artists that obsessively keep their new music off of things like Spotify are behind the times. Someone usually puts it up, and I will find it. I don't download the music, I don't give it to my friends, I don't listen to it on my commute unless I like it. If I preview an album on Youtube and really like it, I'll buy it. If I just kinda like it, I may favorite the video. If I don't like it, I never listen to it again. Who's really losing anything by that?

    Generally, I don't pay any attention to how much money the artist makes one way or another, although I'm more likely to share music or buy merch from artists who aren't as well-off. And the very last thing I pirated before I stopped was the entire Beatles discography, because who really gives a shit about whether Paul and Yoko ever get paid again.
    Yeah spotify totally screws artists over (lots of the royalty checks are like 7 cents for 8,000 plays), and unless the artist is big enough, they can't afford good lawyers. The music ends up on Spotify whether or not the artist likes it if they're signed to a label, and all that's happening is more and more artists are dropping out of the music industry because they're not able to make a living off it.

    I agree that the system of having to buy an album after only hearing singles is outdated and awful. I do support music getting on the internet (lots of bands stream their new albums on their websites for fans to hear), but it genuinely bothers me that these days, so many people will call themselves a fan of an artist, but they don't actually support them at all. I read an article that the average Arcade Fire fan will spend a grand total of $6 something to buy music, merch, and tickets from them. Arcade Fire has the label backing and enough fans to make a living off it, but so many don't.
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    Spotify should get rid of the function that turns "public session" back on automatically. I'm sure that with basically anyone, they'd like to have a "private session" 90% of the time they go on Spotify. So why bother having a function that turns the less common "public session" back on? I know it might seem petty, but if you're trying to switch to private session on the phone app while in your car or something, it's actually fairly annoying to have to do every time. Just imagine having to do 3 extra clicks every single time you use a program that you use daily. It gets old.

    I'm guessing that when people "share" what they've played through Spotify, it promotes the company. But it's freakin' annoying.
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    Under preferences, uncheck 'Share my activity and what I listen to on Facebook.' Though it is weird that they determine when your private session is over, not you.
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